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NOT A RANT, JUST A QUESTION

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Why are some fandoms bigger than others? Why do some fandoms go on for years after their Canon is more or less complete (Such as X-Files or Buffy) while other fandoms are tiny?

I ask because I write in the 24 fandom. This show has violence, angst, death, family issues, doomed romances, and one of the greatest (and hottest) Tragic Heroes in the history of TV Tragic Heroes. What more could a fangirl want?

The show is very popular, two-year hiatus not withstanding. This fandom has some wonderfull, thoughtfull, intelligent writing. (And other fics, not so much, but I don’t have to read those) But we are so LITTLE. Stuff pops up my f-list far less frequently than the other communities I belong to, namely Lost and Battlestar Galactica. You would think that 24 was some obscure cable show that aired for one season back in 1990’s.

Any theories?

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kcountess
Sep. 7th, 2008 10:44 pm (UTC)
See, I think the whole involvement-in-fandom thing is much more entrenched in sci-fi fandoms. You have the cons, the zines which really started fanfic, there are a number of fandoms where fan activism has kept shows going, the higher likelihood that said fans are technologically savvy, and so were more likely to adopt computers and the internet back when they were new and are still more likely to see computers as a big part of their non-work life...

I think it's mainly that the kind of people 24 appeals to (like CSI, for aexample, which has a number of fanfic sites, but is still pretty small for the number of spinoffs and the ratings of the shows) are less likely to become a part of a fandom movement. It's not so much the number of fans as the type of fans
marinw
Sep. 7th, 2008 11:51 pm (UTC)
Fantasy and Sci-Fi does seem to create a lot of fic, doesn’t it? Especially when you have conventions and zines to feed the madness * Thinks nostalgically of her Trekkie days *

This is why I was so surprised when 24 ate my brain.
sardonicynic
Sep. 7th, 2008 11:06 pm (UTC)
Ooh, Karen's got great insight there, and I can't add anything nearly as articulate.

But I will say that our dear, small-ish fandom can be a blessing, thanks to the quality-over-quantity fic we've got. If the 24 fandom was as big as, say, the Harry Potter contingent? I'd be terrified of the crazy and the bad and the WTFery.

-- not to say bad!fic doesn't exist in our little corner of the Internet, but it's happily much less so. *G*
marinw
Sep. 7th, 2008 11:54 pm (UTC)
Excellent point. My rant is due mostly due to my greed and hunger for more good fic. It is like we belong to some semi-secret, exclusive club.

There is some truly god-awful 24 fic. But we don't have to read them.
cybertoothtiger
Sep. 8th, 2008 03:15 am (UTC)
WTFery. Heh. *snags*
marinw
Sep. 8th, 2008 11:39 pm (UTC)
Your icon.I frakking LOVE that icon!!!!
sardonicynic
Sep. 9th, 2008 12:00 am (UTC)
*laughs* I adore Team O'Brian, ohyesIdo. Feel free to snag it if you like, yo — the credit info is with the icon!
cybertoothtiger
Sep. 8th, 2008 03:20 am (UTC)
I'm in favour of the quality-vs-quantity, personally. But it is kind of surprising. It's also strange how female the fandom is, given the heavy weighting of action over relationship/angst in the canon. Is it that the women watching for the hotness and then we feel a need to fill in the emo more than the men do?
marinw
Sep. 8th, 2008 12:25 pm (UTC)
There are stereotypes about how woman like “Chick” stuff (such as Sex and The City) , and men like violence and action.

What astonishes me about 24 is how much emotional impact it had. Maybe some of it is manipulative, but I eat it up anyway. Woman respond to the emo, maybe men do, but they won’t admit it.

So yes, we like to fill the holes. And there is the hotness.
xbedhead
Sep. 8th, 2008 03:25 am (UTC)
I think it's because 24 has a smaller female fan base than some of the other shows you've mentioned. In general, it tends to be women who write fan fic, for a number of reasons (sort of like, women tend to be more oriented toward the written word). Not to say women don't watch it - that's obviously not true - but I'd guess that a smaller amount of women actually get into the show as compared to other programs.

Just a guess.
marinw
Sep. 8th, 2008 12:30 pm (UTC)
I read awhile ago on Fox’s 24orum that the show appeals to a demographic that is richer and more educated than average. * preens, but not at the rich part * Maybe that has something to do with it?

I actually know many female fans. The need for a good story is universal.

There are 76 comments on this post at fanficrants * boogles *
xbedhead
Sep. 8th, 2008 01:59 pm (UTC)
*preens about the educated - and not the rich part - as well*

It might.

But about the female fans thing, with shows like Star Trek or movies like the Harry Potter series - they do have that sci-fi aspect which can attract people, male and female, who may be more inclined to write fic. This show is aimed at pretty much everyone (besides the under, oh, I guess I'll say 18, crowd), but mostly from the 20-50ish age group, I guess. And out of that, if it's the 'rich and educated' who are watching, they're probably building their careers and running the kiddos around to soccer games. I know that a lot of women watch the show, but I wouldn't say they have a majority in the viewership, or even a fifty-fifty hold. I'd say it's probably more around 35-65. I wonder if there's any statistical data running around anywhere? Something with numbers 'n such.

And I was reading through some of the comments last night, but couldn't finish them all. Kudos for posting an interesting topic. :)
marinw
Sep. 8th, 2008 05:43 pm (UTC)
I belive our very own cybertooth is a soccer mom, albeit an extremly cool one * G *
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